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But you are right, opinions are manifold also and particularly in the Amir community. Just because I can use bitcoins doesn't necessarily make it a good idea. He tried to push me out of Bitcoin development by blocking me in the early days which is why I went and first forked with you Freecoin, then created libbitcoin , and later making secret character assassinations about me behind closed doors. Unfortunately people are blind to fake smiles and false words. Have you ever seen someone who likes power through insecurity, lack of vision and wanting to play with the big guys?
Then you have a young punk with vision who doesn't respect the rules and wants to poison the well with anarchist ideology. That's how Cody calls it - the banality of evil. This was during the time when Bitcoin Corporate was at its peak, and there was a prevailing slave sentiment throughout the community of kowtowing to power. Finally there is hope for Bitcoin. I am very happy that Peter Todd is now in charge, and these guys have been exposed for what they are.
Don't forget Charlie Shrem was their darling boy for the longest time, and their main negotiator with Duh System!! Yet when he was accused not charged or anything , they quickly swept him under the rug and denounced him hard. It was me and Cody who showed him our solidarity. They are not ethical people.
They have a kind of public morality not based on virtue but on purely consequence in their Machievallian worldview. It's the anti-thesis of our purely virtue ethical action against power regardless of if we win or not. Because as Cody says - we enjoy the fight. I'm just ensuring that Gavin's destruction is utter and final. Bitcoin is now gripped by a pessimism and anxiety. The corporations and power failed them. With their triumphalism, Bitcoin reached its end-point and the illusion manifest as This guy open sourced the bitcoinia source code with a MtGox api key in it allowing the rest of bitcoinia's funds to be stolen.
Developers didnt trust someone who makes that big of a mistake and removed him from the security mailing list. He got pissy and bashes gavin and mike any chance he gets. Your right, some of op is not completely fair to Gavin. Having said that I could not help to laugh at this from Hearn:. Apparently we serve "wealthy business interests", or some shit.
That's why Gavin chooses to work on the Bitcoin P2P protocol instead of earning 50x more working for a bank. To be fair, Mike Hearn was not commenting about what Mike Hearn chooses to work on, he was commenting on what Gavin chooses to work on. Im a little confused by what is going on in this post. Its written like its mysticism. There's all these vague accusations with little substance. Where is all this malicious behavior that Gavin has exhibited?
I've seen a enormous amount of trolling and character attacks without any rational explanation. And all those bitcointalk threads.
Wow, it writes like a conspiracy theorist deep into speculation. At this point you just have to see past it. The character attacks have reached a point where it's not worth fighting these people anymore. Just keep working and don't look at them. Ignoring them takes away their power. Re Shrem I found it really off-putting how Hearn right away made a statement criticising Shrem and saying how its totally different then HSBC getting away with their money laundering.
As it turned out after facts came out it seemed that the case against Shrem was very shoddy and seemed like a regulator trying to gain publicity possibly for a political career.
The pro-regulation people, and that includes Gavin, ditched Shrem like he was poison, and he was one of them before. Shrem is accused of something entirely different - not just doing an insufficient amount of work, but knowingly co-operating with someone he knew was a Silk Road dealer explicitly to help him launder money.
It's the "knowingly" part that makes the huge difference. The US DoJ did not seem to have large piles of emails from the head of compliance at HSBC showing him buying drugs and helping known dealers to evade his own controls.
With BitInstant they do. It's really no wonder Bitcoin businesses can't get bank accounts, when guys like Shrem were putting on a respectable face and doing that kind of thing behind the scenes. Silk Road and those involved with it are by far the most damaging thing that could ever have happened to Bitcoin, especially so early on.
As it turned out all Shrem done was email some guy where he can buy weed online. The banks also were complicit in the money laundering clearly as they even had specially made deposit windows as you said. IIRC, it was the suitcase that was designed to fit exactly into the teller window, not the other way around. But regardless, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that HSBC knowingly took part in the money laundering. It was far more than an oversight on their part, as Mike is trying to suggest.
Interesting, I heard they had custom windows, but regardless it is quite clear via the decision that HSBC and Wachovia were complicit. But the final decision was something along the lines of "We can't prosecute as the people would lose fait in the banking system. I think you have made irresponsible decisions in the past, and I don't trust that you would handle sensitive security issues responsibly.
Gavin was right not to trust Amir on Security Issues. Amir made a royal mess of Bitcoinica security for example. Purposefully leaking source code leading to further breaches costing its customers millions in damages and lost coins. Amir is right on fiercely resisting corruption and statism imho. Gavins 'star patch' quote is genuinely worrying and says a lot about his character. Gavin is too eager to please the wrong people. That said Gavin did contribute a lot to Bitcoin and that should be recognized.
Amir did leak the Bitcoinica source containing the MtGox API key before the customer reimbursement process was complete. That is a fact. Leaking company source code is poor security practice. Whether it was exploited by a 'hacker' or by Zhou himself using that fact as cover doesn't matter.
The fact is that Amir acted irresponsibly and this actions either directly or indirectly led to this outcome. Your actions did not exactly improve things either and you know it.
Agreed, Both Amir and Gavin shouldn't be trusted to maintain a repo as both have shown blatant disregard for security and consistency in the past. If you have the right arguments, you don't need aggressive language. On the contrary, such languages does you a disservice.
No one voice represents bitcoin. Bitcoin belongs to all of us. And in a variety of voices it's important to have someone like Amir.
Especially as an antidote to someone like Gavin. The longer bitcoin runs the longer track records we have to look at of some of the most prominent voices. Amir's track record is looking pretty damn fine at this point in time. ISIS as it seems. That's worse than Gavin could ever be, if you ask me. But you are right, opinions are manifold also and particularly in the Bitcoin community. I was too fast and too uncritical. Amir calls ISIS "cancer" in the same text. The actions of the organisation might seem random and often pointless, even self-contradicting but the motive that drives the individuals is very focused and consistent.
Whether the brand changes or it becomes a new group, the flavour will remain. Who knows, maybe even something different elsewhere.
However this thing, or concept is not going anywhere. We are now living with cancer. Time to accept it. Amir Taaki's Bitcoin is the one I am excited about- the whole please everybody and follow "authority" is really tired and will lead to nothing new-. This dude just wants to see the world capitalist western one preferably burn. Personally I'd rather see bitcoin thrive and become useful to regular people than see it as a tool for anarchist angry teenagers fighting windmills Then I have bad news for you: Bitcoin was designed as tool for anarchists to protect their property from stealing via inflation and it will always be used as such, because anarchists don't ask permission from their enslavers.
Because you see, the beauty of bitcoin is that anyone can use it as he sees fit. Why should I see it as a problem? Pure capitalism means anarchism anarchy means "no rulers" when translated literally. Let's suppose there is a bunch of rich people trading Bitcoin perfectly - that means they buy at lowest and sell at highest. What would that mean in practice? Firstly, their actions would affect price so it would fluctuate less.
Increased demand causes increased price and vice versa- Secondly, they buy and store "excess" bitcoins which people don't need and provide something else, which people want more e.
If someone is trading wrong buying high, selling low , he loses and will be sooner or later discouraged from doing that. My conclusion is that I have no problem with those people who are risking their money to provide such value. You can also win big by selling high and buying low you profit on the way down on futures or exchanges that offer margin, basically you're selling borrowed bitcoin using some collateral as guarantee.
This will be much harder when market capitalisation will be higher. Also, that swing would be temporary, because that person has to buy it back then to return borrowed coins. Finally, if I can choose between funding speculator and funding government which will use the money to wage wars and oppress people , I choose speculator. So you are not an anarchist yourself then? Tell me, why do you think people should be divided into rulers and their subjects?
In an anarchist utopia if someone stronger than me is hungry he'll punch me in the face and take my banana, because human nature. In an organized society as faulty as it may be I stand a chance. And how does non-anarchy prevent the exact same face punching? Now the banana is stolen with the help of a monopoly on violence a government. Isn't it ironic how you sanction theft taking resources forcefully from others, which is the essence of taxation in order to avoid it?
If human nature is to exploit the weak, then why do you think it's a good idea to allow some to rule over others with perfect immunity? As a side note, I don't think you really know what anarchism means. You seem to think that an anarchist society won't be organized. I'm curious why that would be the case. Most of my relationships are anarchistic in the sense that there are no rulers and subjects, but they are still not chaotic in any sense. Now the banana is stolen with the help of a monopoly on violence.
Because under non-anarchy you face consequences, the monopoly of violence you speak of won't steal my whole banana only part of it taxes and it's predictable on its rules unlike an anarchist monopoly of violence based only on who's stronger. As the son of an immigrant woman with no resources that thrived thanks to the universal healthcare and public schooling of my country I see the taxes I pay now as giving back helping the weaker, not stealing.
The only ones ruling with perfect immunity are the stronger ones over the weaker ones in a society without rules. In order to solve a dispute you need a judge, an authority of some sort otherwise is back to who is stronger. And that is the key point here, you can't organize a society with out a mechanism to solve disputes which inherently means that you need to give power to someone over others a "monopoly of violence" like you call it.
Are you not familiar with civil forfeitures? Also, if there is a balance of power, then it's much harder to steal the banana in the first place. The system you advocate creates a huge power imbalance where others are completely above the rules that bind the masses. Do you think ends justify means then? What about the opportunity costs from not having the free market allocate those resources? This is exactly what you create: You have created the ultimate version of the weak and the strong.
Bush killed hundreds of thousands of people and committed several war crimes during his presidency. Yet he has perfect immunity. Then how can I solve disputes with my family, friends and coworkers all the time without a need for any central authority? Our dispute solving is entirely based on voluntarism and the fact that if anyone is unhappy, they have the power to leave.
Let me ask you this: Or do you think monopolies and cartels lead to better results from the consumer's perspective? If you understand that competition is good, then why wouldn't competition deliver better results also in the realm of law and order?
What balance of power are you talking about? Allowing the weak that don't stand a chance a bootstrap to thrive in their lives pays off for a society. Kings used to raise capital in order to wage wars. They required popular support before they were able to fund their wars. A common tool in modern day authoritarian regimes is currency manipulation in order to fund their wars of genocide e. I suspect that there won't be any overnight switch, giving everybody enough time in order to adjust the current system to any changes.
The internet wasn't built perfect. Bitcoin will too undergo this transformation with time as it ages. More from the call for questions: The idea that if you lose or destroy or whatever your computer and lose all your money isn't going to make the general public accept this. Bitcoin now stands at its early stages. It's the kernel of the software stack that will eventually exist for this financial system. Other services and software utilising Bitcoin will exist.
A common view is where Bitcoin acts as an automated clearing house between all these user facing services in the future. Bitcoin's protocol itself will need to be extended in order for it to grow. As the network expands, block sizes could become impossible large once it rivals the transaction volume of a comparable service like VISA or Paypal.
To have lightweight clients that don't need to process these large GB sized blocks new protocol commands like a txmatch regex would need to be introduced in order that clients don't need to process the entire block data. The point to Bitcoin is that you can choose your own level of trust in an external service. One of our group's members, Patrick Strateman, came up with a scheme whereby a wallet could be recovered algorithmically using an email and a password.
In the future I expect savings accounts where retrieving the money is an arduous proccess. Then we can go further to where a person has all their funds in a trusted service like with email today- how many people run their own mail servers?
What markets do you think will be the first to most aggressively adopt bitcoins as their currency? What insights can you offer as to why the US government is having a hostile reaction to bitcoins? Immediately as liquidity improves in exchanges, the best use for Bitcoins will be individuals transferring funds between countries without fees. Our group has a lot of interest from mobile sectors because of the potential as a micropayment system.
Currently now in Africa, people use mobile credit as a form of currency to transfer funds across borders, but that's usually less than ideal.
The US government isn't a homogenous entity, and one senator possibly funded by bankers made a false claim on Bitcoin- calling it a scheme for drug trafficking networks. It may simply be due to reactionary misunderstanding like the people in Yahoo Finance calling Bitcoin a Ponzi scheme invented by bankers.
That's why our group is aggressively pursuing press in order to dispel these myths. Terminology If we eventually use Bitcoin in everyday life, say, in the supermarket, how will we deal with prices in fractions of a Bitcoin? What terminology might we use for something priced at 0.
The accepted 'standard' is to use SI prefixes. Here come the regulators How will your business change when countries regulate exchanges? How do you ensure your exchange isn't being used for illicit purposes to avoid being shut down by government authorities?
It is our goal and has been for months to get legal legitimisation. Our hope is that when governments do come to look at Bitcoin, they will see a long running, honest, legal exchange with open books. By having something in the law books about Bitcoin, it sets a positive legal precedent in the future and puts us as the policy makers rather than a bunch of old 60 year banker types.
Our exchange complies with the UK Know Your Customer laws which ensures it's not being used for illicit activity. We keep detailed transaction records and run regular audit logs to look for missing funds. But eventually, one would want to use BitCoins to pay for legal services. My question is; how do you get to that point? Why would a legitimate business accept a currency that is used almost exclusively for illegal means?
What is the strategy to convince mainstream businesses that BitCoins have a purpose in the main web, as well? The illicit markets are a very small part of Bitcoin yet the most sensationalist. I can see how one would think Bitcoin is purely for illegal trade if I didn't know better. Check out the list of merchants.
Full and open disclosure: At one point I had , but I'm a bad hoarder. But that doesn't bother me at all. We have our group of free software developers developing Bitcoin itself and other related projects. Funds are coming in and we're growing. The goal is to this as a sustainable operation paying developers working on Bitcoin fulltime.
What are the advantages of bitcoin? One problem I see with bitcoin is it offers very little over what we currently have. If I want to perform an online transaction using my computer, unless I am buying something illegal, then there are already companies which offer products for me to use. If I want to make an anonymous purchase in person, I would easily use cash. Bitcoin seems to suffer from a lack of portability, which makes me wonder, what "need" is bitcoin catering to?
What do I do in my day-to-day life that bitcoin will help me do such that as some point, bitcoin becomes irreplaceable and achieves de facto permanency? Sending funds abroad is time consuming, expensive and difficult.
Requiring me to be in person at the bank, the woman was unable to enter the Polish L looking character into her terminal. I had to aquire an internet banking code to do it online. Waited 3 days, logged in and the internet banking form didn't work.
In the end, I ended using a friend to aquire Bitcoins and use the Polish exchange bitomat we never use Britcoin ourself. I wanted to donate funds to the excellent Symphony of Science musician. I went to fill in the Paypal form, spent 10 mins signing up to an account, entering all my very personal details and my card was rejected.
In the end I got him to accept Bitcoins and donated directly without paying fees to Paypal. Sony recently was hacked. Millions of accounts were leaked. If they were using Bitcoins then the addresses people donated to would be known to the attacker.
Not my private keys which enable said attacker to spend my cash. With commerce, everything becomes cheaper. Bitcoin vastly reduces the overhead needed for fees. We no longer require staff sitting inside banks pressing numbers on a keyboard since the system is automatically backed by mathematics and cryptography, not laws and people.
So in short, lots of rationalization for having spent lots of time working on this with nothing of real substance to get people to actually use it. USD are also a lot more popular. This is actually important: It is important that people perceive their money has value.
Amir Taaki formerly lived in an anarchist squat in Barcelona, Spain. He was then discharged and worked in the civil society for over a year on various projects for Rojava's economics committee. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
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